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It's all voluntary work so if I kindly ask you, would you help me please with a small donation?

Honestly, I have NO idea how much to ask you for, but is a gift of € 10 once a year something you'd be able to consider?

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This prevents us being bombarded with junk mail (spam). There is no reason why you can't have more than one address on the list (eg. office and home) and we can adjust things so that you only receive mail at one of the addresses.

The message will then be relayed to all current members of the list. It's a bit like a unicom frequency!   

This is the way Grumpies keep in touch to announce impromptu fly-ins.
It is also a light-hearted forum for discussions on other aviation related topics - internet hangar talk.
Preferred language to display messages: English, German, French. However feel free to use any language you like, Google Translate is our friend!

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6 - Rules.

Rule 1. There are no rules but please remember that anything you send will go out to everyone on the list, some of whom are of a sensitive nature(!)

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  • The list is intended to provide a simpler way for those of us who already communicate as a group to continue to do so without having to maintain our own individual mailing lists. In particular it is intended to be a way to notify each other of flying plans so that impromptu fly-ins are not missed.

  • Otherwise the content should be restricted loosely to flying related topics and please DO NOT post any large binary files (high resolution pictures etc). We have set a limit of 500k for any message which should be plenty big enough to allow for the odd compressed picture.
    Technical exchanges will probably get a better response if they are transferred to the
    Grumman Gang

  • If you have any problems with the list please e-mail André Everaert  and I will try to sort them out for you.

Fly safe,

The Grumpy Mailing List Administrator,
André Everaert.